Shill Podcast – Old Media Rules or New Media Game

0:31 Dave vainly tries to present a softer, gentler side of himself, by introducing the wishy-washy topic of everything new is old again. Doug smells blood in the water and writes a cheque his ass can’t cash.

1:30 The wide awake listener will notice that Dave doesn’t really believe that things have changed much. Doug snorts his contempt while spouting new media bafflegab like a tongue-tied politician on a filibuster. And so Shill hits cruising speed.

2:00 Doug shouts the obvious from the rooftops, claiming that infinite media tends towards zero value while Dave quietly laughs up his sleeves.

3:18 Dave tries hopelessly to make sense of the senseless. Doug verbally bludgeons Dave like an obtuse child while expecting retribution from the listener for his own obtuse claims.

4:49 Dave makes a withdrawal from the Clue Bank reminding us that there has always been more content than any human being could intake. Doug accuses the whole Internet of piracy by saying that to consume digital content is to copy. He also admits to boarding the SNL bandwagon en route.

7:30 Dave plays the Doug Whisperer and tries to tease some sense out of Doug’s ranting and wonders whether searching for needles in a haystack is a good use of time.

8:10 TRITENESS WARNING: Doug brings up Sturgeon’s Saw.. er Law.

9:05 Dave attempts to claim a point for Team Status Quo talking about the value of editors and the hassle of DIY media. Doug pats Dave on the head and says that the glut of content allows for blessings like LOLCats to thrive, which would have been impossible in traditional content.

12:31 Dave conjures the ghost of repeater bloggers and value creation wondering aloud how social media only took two years to be inane when it took traditional media a few decades.

13:35 Smug bastard Doug takes a cheap shot at Dave calling him linear in a networked world and then doubles the output at the abstruse factory. He further embarrasses himself using an archaic meaning of the word “Ho!” like a grade school Shakespeare play.

15:16 Dave comes to Doug’s rescue and makes his point for him that the network does indeed bring value to finding content of interest and admits to stalking his favourite echo chamberites via twitter.

17:10 Dave again wonders about the value of repeater blogs and attempts to close Shill where it started. This gets Doug’s goat and in a fit of irritation says that saying everything is the same is sloppy thinking, he then gives his own hypocrisy a hug.

21:12 Doug questions the value of the last 21 minutes and then like a teenager driving a manual transmission, Shill splutters and lurches to an end.

Theme Music:

I Want To Hear What You Have To Say” by the Subways via the Podsafe Music Network.

Comments:

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7 Responses to “Shill Podcast – Old Media Rules or New Media Game”

  1. Once again, first.

    I’m getting discouraged that you guys aren’t getting the linklove and google juice. It’s episode 6!

    You obviously need to ask for call-in comments, think up some wacky side bit and maybe bring in a crusty old vet …. okay, what about Clarkey?

  2. Call in comments – We don’t care what listeners think
    Whacky side bit – The whole show is a wacky side bit
    Crusty old vet – That would be your hosts
    Clarkey – Can’t trust him, he will screw things up purposely to get on the Shit List with Ed.

    Google Juice is for posers anyway. We got the ultimate honour and were categorized under “Pornography” by Stumble Upon.

    http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.shillpodcast.com/

    If that doesn’t bring in soon to be disgruntled listeners then I have lost my faith in the Web.

  3. Colin…you’re finally getting Shill after 6 episodes. We fully intend to suffer in obscurity for our art.

    The master plan is to actually reach a certain milestone of listenership and see if we can intentionally drive them away. We figure it’ll be a novel concept in social medai since most other podcasts unintentionally drive people away.

  4. I cannot wait to be intentionally driven away.

    Seriously though, David you know I mention you guys in the podcasts I listen to every month, and Shill #6 makes me wonder if I’m just regurgitating it and re-distilling information.

    I do that because I think it’s a great podcast and want to share it (which is probably the same lame excuse the bloggers who post “X said this, here’s the link” give).

    Whaddya think?

  5. We are doing our best to alienate the listener, but he just keeps on coming back.

    Personally, I think there is a big difference betweent distilling and regurgitating. Distilling means you are taking out of it what is important to you and feeding it to your audience, regurgitating means you are saying whatever your source said.

    Distilling is always fine in my books, because the writier is acting as an editor and providing value by summarizing, in this case a whiny marketing podcast. However if all one does is distill, then you better be really good at it.

    Regurgitating in my mind is usually wrong, because you are rarely adding any value. In my mind the only time it is a good thing is when you are really opening up a new audience. So for example pointing to a technology post from an architectural blog and briefly discussing the relevance is cool versus yet another tech blog pointing to a “good” Tech Crunch article.

  6. I gotcha points, Doug. Thanks for that.

    Damn I gotta stop being one of those pesky listeners that just keep coming back.

    ;)

  7. [...] Shill #6 meandered a little this month, but still a worthwhile discussion about whether there’s any value in re-posting news. [...]

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