0:00 Doug acts like a pompous ass while ordering a single malt, while Dave’s thought train derails. Looks like another Shill is off to the races.
0:58 Doug opens the show and Dave announces ShillstivalTO 2.0 in session.
2:30 Doug discloses his former career as a social media douchebag, apparently he has graduated to a colostomy bag or something. Dave claims that not updating your blog is a badge of honour.
3:10 It’s spring again, the natural meetup season of the geek. Twestival holds little appeal for Dave as he is a natural misanthrope. PodCamp, Mesh, Third Tuesday, SXSW, are all on the horizon, expect TwitterLynching.
6:40 Doug admits to having no idea where the cool kids treehouse will be relocated now that Twitter has gone mainstream. Dave narrowly avoids saying that there are no mountains left to climb, Doug calls Dave shallow-brained.
9:00 Dave and Doug agree that Facebook needs another look since they mercifully buried the bloody Zombie apps and turned it back into a slightly interactive contact list. Dave comes out in favour of walled-gardens.
11:25 Dave says it doesn’t matter what clients do anymore so long as they have a community manager.
12:29 Doug questions where the line is drawn between corporate brands and personal reputation. Dave tries to drag the conversation back to @scotmonty, but Doug wisely avoids the bait. Further musing on corporate twitter accounts and podcast dress codes.
16:55 Why would anyone follow a corporate twitter that wasn’t backed by a person. Dave says that a little client shilling is okay, so long as it is not the only reason to be on Twitter.
18:45 Exciting guest appearance from the waitress and the Scotch list.
19:25 EDIT ALERT – several minutes of discussing Scotches with the bartender was mercifully cut from the podcast. Don’t worry we promise not to make editing a habit or anything.
19:37 iPhone interference makes a guest appearance. Good think no one listens to this podcast.
19:45 Dave brings discussion to client’s paying for strategy versus paying for execution. Doug leaps to the defence of his companies business model and warns clients of the risk of expecting ideas without paying for development of them. Dave brings up the ghost of “spec creative” and that you get what you pay for, so cough up cheapskates or you will get the agencies who have nothing better to do.
24:15 Conversation drifts to pitches and the sometimes dumb expectations of clients, like “cheat the other clients and pass the savings on to us.” Dave tries to justify the client perspective (or perhaps his own past behaviour).
27:45 Doug tries to steer the HMS Shill back on course by saying any jackass can have an idea, but will the idea work for a given cleint at a given time. Dave tries to pose a question, but Doug interjects with Norse mythology.
31:25 Dave spits in the eye of everyone who calls him a cheap bastard over the years, by grabbing the cheque, while Doug quietly regrets not opting for the expensive hooch.
34:40 Stay tuned for next year’s Shill for the most excting rose ceremony yet! And a little more iPhone interference to round out the show.
And like a squirrel crossing a bare spot on the electrical lines, Shill stops, jitters a bit and then falls to the street below waiting for a passing car to turn it into a stain.
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